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Feedback from the 31 January 2010 Services sorted by themes

Themes

Community
General
Finances
Impact on Existing Site
Car Parking
Provision for Children/Young People
Access
Prayer
Connectivity and flexibility
Alternative Options/Suggestions
Future Running Costs
Physical
Environment
Miscellaneous

Community

* I suggest we consider a coffee shop/fair-trade shop? This could be a great way to get in touch with our community.
* I like the size. This is a bold vision. This is great.
* Share plans via local paper to get feedback from local people who do not attend St John’s.
* Consider joining forces with community/environment/health groups to share cost and use.
* Wonderful concept – everything catered for.
* I like wonderful use of space.
* Like community focus.
* How do we make it a truly community project?
* Very supportive of developing some green space for the whole community.
* I’d like to know how much use there is for this in Egham’s small community.
* I want to know whether the space could be hired out to people?
* I like how it promotes community, come in for the day.
* I like idea of a space for mums to stay and chat when they’ve dropped children off.
* What are the perceived needs of our community? One of the main ones seems to be space to meet in – are we planning to rent out the new building as a meeting space for local groups?
* Working more together as churches
* A superb design which would open up opportunity for reaching the community with a welcoming environment.
* I like that it is going to be for the community of Egham.
* I am quite concerned that, as I understand it, there will be no facility for groups from the community of Egham to use the centre or any part of it. I feel that this does not fit in with the 5 points of the Church Vision particularly ‘Inviting’.

General

* Overall vision/picture is excellent.
* Like the plans very much – inspired.
* Excellent plans.
* I love the overall plan. It brings the church alive & allows for growth + transformation of the Egham community.
* It gives so much opportunity for greater ministry and mission.
* Plans look wonderful but why another large church-sized area (2nd floor) if current church building is underutilised?
* I like the extensive thought and planning process gone on so far.
* I suggest that we move on to the next stage very quickly.
* I like the look of the new building – 2 storey structure and lots of different spaces for different uses.
* I like focus on building of a means of removing constraints of existing ministry (as well as potential) i.e. NOT “building a building and ministry will follow”.
* I like flexibility for future expansion with the crypt opportunity/access.
* I like the idea of a light, airy new building.
* I like the size – not too big or small.
* I like the entrance is right off the street – no walls.
* I like the look of the building and think the different levels are good.
* I like the general concept and space being created.
* The concern is the extent of the project & costs.
* No doubt that we need a new church centre facility – looks great!
* I like the organic ‘flow’ of the structures.
* I like the internal layout and all the different spaces/opportunities provided.
* I like the general design and think it is a good idea.
* I like new entrance and scale of building.
* Plans look great with almost all things thought of except windows
* I like the modern look & practicality.
* I like the new development.
* I like the amount of space generated.
* I like the concept, more space.
* I suggest we build a bigger centre and do it in one go?
* Entering church via the EAST end will be very intimidating facing the congregation.
* The new centre is quite hidden at the back. How will we open up the site so people know we are here? (I know it’s about the people but Christmas Kitchen in centre is not the same as CK in high street).
* We like the overall ideas! Flexible/modern/space. Link to church/facilities.
* Needs to be more specific emphasis on why we’re ‘transforming the community’ and what it means to ‘glorify God’ – all pointless unless we preach Christ crucified. Although building ideas are great.
* I like the potential of the new building for making an impact.
* I like the green open space where the graveyard is – this should be lit at night maybe?
* I like very much indeed, the overall concept, size, position & connection.
* I especially liked the ideas of outside space. Balcony and safe garden for children. And green seating area leading to high street – fantastic!
* I like the overall plan/concept and the connection to the church building.
* I like the flexibility + versatility of the proposed building, to accommodate many different groups and purposes.
* I like what I’ve seen today – it makes me feel excited inside to belong to such a church and how it will be ‘used’ in Egham.
* I very much like the overall look and ideas.
* I like the fact that the church has been preserved.
* Really looking forward to the new facility – greatly needed and will help hugely.
* I like the idea of the centre becoming a hub (the e.g. that Jeff gave of mums staying after nursery drop off) for Egham.
* Like – outside area for crèche, link with church, visibility from the road, green roof.
* Greatly encouraging – thank you.
* I like the spaces involved.
* I think the new centre may be too big. Some of our current buildings are under-utilised, i.e. the Caddey and Church. Even the Church Centre is not used some evenings and Saturdays.
* I like – sympathetic shape, size, location, etc.
* I like everything.
* Great project.
* Thank you for all your hard work so far – much appreciated. Great presentation.
* Praise God for exciting plans!
* I think the new building is too big.
* I like large light atrium, being connected, 7 day use, community space.
* I like position, size, connectivity.
* I’d like to know how will the building be built to last 100 years?!
* I’d like to know what’s going on with the whole site, i.e. including the garden?
* Some concerns that the visibility from the high street would not be as good as the north side design. But they understood the issues with 140, English Heritage and the Waitrose development meant that the current plan was a better plan.
* I like – initial reaction is very positive – need to see plans more closely to take in everything and think through implications
* I suggest – more time to look at plans
* I like the boldness of the plan.
* Hudson Taylor – attempt all things
* Positive overall
* I like the proposals
* I like the building and all we’ve seen this morning.
* I love the plans and think very good use has been made of the area.
* I need longer to look at and digest plans.
* I like the plans
* I like – comprehensive to meet our needs
* I like the vision
* I suggest simplicity
* It looks like a large and flexible resource that will accommodate many more activities than currently.
* I like it.
* General impression good.
* Is it a ‘staged’ development, i.e. phase 1, 2, etc.
* Size & design of building enabling multiple diverse groups to meet concurrently.
* I like the ideas – they look good.
* Generally fine
* I like the concept.
* I like the ambition shown for the use of the new church centre and the overall potential appearance of the site.
* I like LOVE the vision and the thought of all the many possibilities WOW – it made me cry to see it via the helicopter!! Thank you.
* I like the look of the building.
* Plans look terrific.
* I like the two storey approach.
* I like the plans at first sight but would like more time to consider them more closely.
* I liked the plans.
* Like the talk that the buildings are a tool for God’s purpose.
* I want to study the plans more before making any observations.
* I like the use of space, the facilities it gives.
* Thank you for your diligent work and attention and consideration to detail.
* I like it all! In particular, the improved access from Manor Farm Road round the north side to the front of the church – increases visibility and access from the High Street.
* I like the plan for a building fit for purpose.
* I like the idea for the project.
* I like the overall plan.
* I like that it is something for everyone.

Finances

* I’d like to know how to get involved in fundraising.
* How they going to afford it? (What is Gift Day?)
* I’d like to know if the fundraising will be made public (it’s for all of Egham!).
* I suggest an opportunity to raise future funds for future development by hiring out the centre for conference facilities. Egham is well positioned for good access.
* My concern is that this project may be too ambitious for the relatively small number of our church members, particularly in this period of recession which is still hanging over us like the sword of Damocles.
* What makes up the cost of £3million? I feel uncomfortable spending such a huge amount when there is such need in the world for that money.
* I suggest we ask the community & business for sponsorship as it benefits everyone – buy an engraved brick?
* Can we break down the costs by: church centre; church development (crèche etc.); adjoining development (to link + foyer)?
* Love it all but that’s an awful lot of money – how much per head?
* More INFO on GIFT DAY.
* Fund raising the key to realise the 2012 VISION.
* I’d like to know the increase in cost expected if we delay.
* How do I give?
* Question – are we planning to give away a minimum of 10% to charitable causes? A cosy state of the art church centre is no conciliation if you’re starving.
* Question – 300,000 children die each day of preventable causes. How can we also serve them through this project? 3 million is a lot of money. I’m concerned could better be used elsewhere.
* I’d like to know how many years the financing will be spread over.
* I suggest the building plans be scaled down so that the amount of money needed is more manageable.
* Parishioners can be encouraged to make provision in their wills to donate to St John’s. I’ve never heard it done.
* Are we planning to allocate 10% of money raised to other charities? If so, could we perhaps allocate some of it to the Besom plans for a more permanent Christmas Kitchen as this would also be serving the community?
* Some rooms or facilities could be sponsored.
* I’d like to know how many paid staff members it will require to run the new centre, i.e. admin, catering, etc.
* How much cost per person?
* How raise money?
* I really like everything about the proposed building but I can’t see how if I had £20,000 in my hands I could justify spending it on this instead of giving it to starving people. Of course I am forgetting the urgent need of people here for God.
* £3m – how can we justify this in the present financial climate? A joy of today can so easily become a burden for tomorrow.
* I’d like to know how much it will cost
* Love the conception + preliminary plans except concern over the i) size ii) & cost.
* What is this church’s position on accepting lottery funding?
* Budget – seems out of proportion for a church of our size
* I like the idea – but can I afford it – too many commitments which I feel are going to increase?
* When and how can we start contributing towards cost especially for those who would like to give regular amount rather than lump sum.
* A project this large will need a project accountant – someone with experience of legal and tax requirements AND internal monitoring and reporting.
* Question: Does cost include fixtures and fittings?
* No suggestions but I’d like to know how £3million can be raised from a congregation of 3-450. A great deal of prayer needed.
* Very excited by the project (especially Jeff’s talk) but £4m is a lot of money

Impact on existing site inc. Caddey

* I’d like to know what is the plan for the Caddey? I am sure I missed it, but when will it go?
* The Caddey is hugely under-used – there are currently two regular weekly bookings, i.e. Saturday and Sunday morning.
* I’d like to know whether the Caddey will still be in use. It does need updating.
* What about existing garden of remembrance?
* I’d like to know where the Caddey went.
* Ancient burial ground is sacred – DON’T BUILD ON IT!
* Will the Garden of Remembrance and headstones remain where they are?
* What about the Caddey? Is it to be retained or demolished?
* Confused about the role of the Caddey in this?
* GRAVES SHOULD BE RESPECTED.
* Protect the trees on site.
* I’d like to know more about how to cope with the listed graves and old graveyard.

Car Parking

* How many parking spaces will be available? Is this sufficient?
* I suggest we look at access to the building from the car park. People often need to carry stuff from home – food, musical instruments. The lay-by is not enough.
* Are you relying on the existing parking? I’m sure we’ll need more than the small lot + Tesco as the ministry grows.
* I suggest encouraging people to walk or cycle to church rather than building a bigger car park.
* Didn’t see much on-site parking. Existing car park is inadequate.
* I’d like to know if extra car parking will be available for the increased number of people using the building.
* Will the car park be bigger – it’s often full. And with the planned change to Egham central car park will become more important.
* Will the car park need to be bigger to cater for expanded ministries?
* I suggest – reconsidering the car park – do we really need one?
* Will there be enough space for the car park – which should be secure
* Parking is essential
* New Egham will have less car parking facilities probably
* Question – size of car park
* I’d like to know more about car parking and how the front of the church is going to be made more visible to passing traffic/pedestrians?
* I’d like to know where are we parking cars – the new supermarket will use the existing car park.
* Where can the handicapped park their cars for easy access to church?
* It would be a shame to have to move the car park. (but not against it if required)

Provision for children/young people

* Weekly youth club 11yrs +
* Good outside space for both young and older kids.
* Want to know – is there adequate room for games for young people?
* Children’s balcony – safety issues?
* I suggest that there is a bit more storage (unless there is plenty) for all different activities (Playbox/Playtime, etc.)
* I’d like to know if there are children only toilets on the LG floor for Playbox/Playtime, etc.? As well as separate adult ones?
* (I like) the children’s area.
* I like the enclosed garden being at the back.
* I like the division of space for children & adult activity.
* I’d like to know what extra provision the young people need as they currently seem to be meeting primarily in people’s homes during the week or in the Caddey on a Sunday morning. Using the Day Centre for the Explorers also seems to be a very efficient use of resources.
* I’d like to know if outdoor facilities for children.
* Why is the crèche detached from the rest of the children’s work?
* I don’t like the crèche balcony – children could fall out.
* I’d like to know why crèche is at back of church, not in centre with other groups? Logistic issues?? Children in both areas?
* What happens to groups like Playbox + Stepping Stones during construction?
* A little concerned at the concentration on children. Their impact on the building should be minimised.
* I’d like to know where Playbox will function, whilst the building project is in process.
* I suggest a garden for children to play.
* I’d like to know is Outbreak being catered for in this building?
* I like that the children’s area is separate to other areas as that will mean following the services there will be more space for everyone.
* Need to clearly think through how the building will be designed to accommodate both Playbox and other large children events taking place simultaneously.
* I like the new teaching rooms/space for Playbox – but how much will this space be shared – is it solely for Playbox use, if not who is responsible for it and rearranging it for other uses?
* I just wondered if equipment for Playbox/Playtime will be able to be left out permanently and, if not, what storage space is available.
* If the Caddey goes in the future what space is there in the new centre for Outbreak – will this space need to be shared, e.g. with Playbox?
* Questions – size of external secured play area
* You can never have enough pram-parking spaces!
* Crèche seems isolated – separate from rest of children.
* Individual space for teenagers (CYFA) to call their own?
* We already have a great space for the youth but it needs some money spent on it now though. We don’t have to go into the crypt.
* Creche needs to be with the children work for parents otherwise going in different directions.
* I like the provision for children’s work especially the secure garden.

Access

* I like the lay-by near front door.
* I suggest make the whole centre wheelchair friendly & with handrail attached to the wall.
* I like the main roadside approach. It makes it more accessible to the public and local community.
* I suggest – can we create level access between church and upper level at centre
* Seems to be lots of steps which may be a problem for elderly & disabled – how can this be reduced?
* Slight concern about congestion at way through from church to new centre – would like to see more made of walkway from front of church to new centre.
* I like both new entrances of the church centre.
* Would be good to have access to new building from the front side of the church, as lots of people walk this way from Egham.
* I’d like to know – will all areas be accessible at all times, e.g. church, staircase, etc.
* It’s excellent that the church centre has disabled access so all people can get in.
* Is there an entrance to the crèche behind the church or is it through the centre?
* Sounds as if access could be awkward for those who are not very mobile.
* When there are children downstairs and drinks are prepared upstairs, is there a sensible way of getting the drinks downstairs? Stairs = precarious, life = slow?
* Would you get a bottle neck effect with people moving through the church to the centre after services? Would you still need to go via the scenic route outside?
* I’d like to know how you address ‘bottle-necking’ at the end of services through smaller door at front of church.
* Suggestions – any way to create a ramp for the 5 or 6 step gap for buggies & wheelchairs (lifts tend to cause bottleneck).
* Not to do with access re elderly people (some) can’t walk far. Is the lift big enough + where to place/position walking aids?
* I suggesting possibility of an escalator
* Facilities for disabled, connected with parking
* I’d like to know whether provision has been made for the disabled, e.g. wide doors to take wheelchairs; special toilets; hand rails; etc. etc. including entrance from church.
* Is there a possibility that there could be no steps between the church and the upper floor of the centre (having just seen the architect slip down the steps off the dais)?
* How can we keep children from trampling the Garden of Remembrance if there is a major entrance to the new centre there?

Prayer

* I’d like to know that we firmly believe Lord’s hand on this project.
* I like emphasis – prayer and ministry/transforming. This must not degenerate into just a building project.
* Patience in prayer.
* How do we know what God’s will is?
* I’d like to know how open and accessible the prayer room will be generally. I like the idea but would you be able to use it at any time?
* Overall – prayerful approach will result in God meeting the resources.
* I suggest we pray a lot and make sure we’re following God’s plans not our plans.
* I like the emphasis placed on it being a spiritual enterprise above all, rather than a building enterprise.
* In a sense it feels very ambitious and we will need to prayerfully seek God’s guiding and provision going forward.
* I like the prayerful presentation.
* I suggest that we go forward prayerfully with enthusiasm.

Connectivity and flexibility

* Like – connected to church! Flexibility of meeting rooms.
* I like the multi-function use of the three rooms on each level, removable walls, etc.
* Like the fact it is linked to church building.
* Like – linked to church & green roof.
* Like that centre would be linked to church.
* I like the link from the church
* I like connectivity to church, versatility of building, garden.
* (I like) connection with the church
* I like the linkage to the main church.
* I like linking to church building so one central place where a variety of things happen.
* I like the flexibility of space the new church buildings will give us.
* I like the connection between church and church centre.
* I like links between church & centre.
* I like the fact that the centre is linked to the church.
* Like the way the new centre is connected, leaving the church relatively untouched.
* I suggest a not-so-lite ‘connector’ between the two buildings.
* Inspired design – 3 million.
* I like that it will be attached to the main building.
* I like the flexibility of the design – seminar rooms or large open spaces – and the ease of movement between church and centre.
* Alignment & connection are excellent.
* I do like everything being connected and open and welcoming.
* I like connection to the main church centre.
* Like – new church centre connected to church sounds to me like an excellent idea.
* I suggest – can forestration (?) be used to link the church building to the new one through shape?
* I like the building being attached to the church.
* I like the concept that the teaching & seminar rooms can open out – makes them flexible.
* I like the way the proposed new build connects with the church and the potential flexibility of the space. I also think this is a really exciting prospect.
* Direct link to church from extension –NO
* I like the accessibility from the church.
* LINKING IS VITAL
* I like the link between church and new centre.
* I like the idea of connecting to the existing church building.
* I like: the overall positioning + way the centre is joined to the church.
* I like the integration of the Church and Church Centre and the real contribution this will make to our overall Ministry.
* I am hugely impressed by the work done. I like the way the centre will link with the church.

Alternative options/suggestions

* Open plan offices not good, experience is no one uses them. A designated youth + children’s room/office would be better.
* Suggest – small gift/book/card shop.
* I suggest a coffee shop.
* I suggest moving main kitchen from far end of building to nearer church.
* I’d like to know if coffee/bookshop is possible.
* Can we bring Egham High Street to St John’s, i.e. charity shops perhaps in/near the grounds?
* I’d like to know more about the plans for the green “quiet space” to be developed from the graveyard.
* I suggest … not all church activities need to take place in a church building … it can be better to use community buildings which others may find less threatening to enter … if size or cost is an issue this may help.
* I suggest making use of the seminar halls/rooms space as a sports hall too.
* I suggest the centre to include a music room.
* (I suggest) we do look seriously at opening up the graveyard as a park area.
* I suggest incorporating a small coffee shop and church library.
* Crypt option – that the development of that area could be part of it.
* I’d like to know the vision for the crypt.
* I like the idea of opening up the crypt too – good use of space.
* I think the crypt should be done first to start the process.
* I suggest that the ‘green space’ plans at developed at the same time (or even 1st?!?).
* Missing – coffee/meeting area.
* ??? crèche at back of church & over vicar’s office??!!
* There has to be a cafe!! (mine’s a latte)
* I’d like to know what happens if the ‘monstrosity’ @ 140 High Street suddenly becomes available or affordable.
* A cover for the walkway from church to centre
* I suggest a development visible more directly from the main road would be better, but presumably not possible.
* Crypt access was mentioned as a possibility. This should definitely be done.
* I suggest a good venue for student events.
* I suggest designing in adequate catering facilities.
* I would like to know how the crypt would be used/developed. Thank you!
* Could there be a place for feeding people?
* A roof top garden on top of the Church Centre?
* Would the crypt be accessible by the lift?
* Will the storage space in the crypt still be there if it is going to be used more or will new storage space be provided?
* I’d like to know – are there enough easily accessible toilets from the existing church? i.e. separate from children’s safe area? At the moment there is a serious lack for use during services.
* I’d like to ensure there was flexibility to grow.
* I suggest a coffee shop or cafe area.
* I would suggest an outside area for people to sit/chat – in summer time.
* I like Crypt option/ garden, etc.
* I like the idea of using the crypt.
* Would it be possible to have a small kitchen area closer to (or in) the church?
* Have you thought about/would it be possible to have a cafe at the entrance of the church centre?
* I suggest you continue to demolish 140.
* Continue to try & ? of 140 High Street??
* Could we develop the Landscaped Garden first to a) add immediate value to the local community to the project, b) get local residents on side and b) use as a venue to host a marquee for creative fund raisers like a gourmet cooking event. (Idea from Derek McGovern)
* I’d like to know how we might open up the high street facing end of the site.
* I suggest the large green open space is used as an extension of the secure garden. Do not cut it off with a car park. This would be against safety if we had large numbers at holiday club and after school clubs.
* I suggest making a ‘library’ area.
* What are the possibilities for future developments ‘The whole campus plan’ like previous plans.
* I would like to know more about how we plan to tackle the problem of visibility of the main building from the road.
* Such a shame that there is no space to have that on the High Street, centre of Egham side.
* I suggest: I had hoped for a slightly enclosed memorial garden where there would be some outside seating and place for reflection alongside the ‘ashes’ grassed area, i.e. not next to the main path. Re-route path?
* No. 140 – if it becomes available would the possibilities change?
* I ‘d like to know why the crypt is not to be developed now – new centre would only need to be single storey.
* I suggest more/better office space for the wider staff team (which will grow with the church)
* I’d like to know – what about a High Street presence?

Future running costs (financial and personnel)

* I’d like to know how is building kept secure, protected from vandalism, etc.
* You will need more staff!
* Running costs, both financial and personnel needed, will be considerably higher than currently. Have these been budgeted for?
* I’d like to know – more – the transition arrangements.
* Would we need a caretaker? Someone to lock up every night, open up in mornings, etc.
* I’d like to know if it means jobs (paid) or is it voluntary.
* Has a business plan been drawn up for the running cost after build
* Imaginative use of church space & would give wonderful opportunities – but scary! Finance and personnel time.
* I would like to know what impact owning a building like this will have on running costs and staffing needs.

Physical

* Transparency/large glass windows in prayer rooms & counselling rooms may not be appropriate.
* I like the amount of space it will create.
* Like – enclosed garden, sounds lovely.
* Stain glass window in reception.
* Is it safe to let children out on a balcony? Could this lovely balcony be accessed from another space besides the crèche?
* Could it be 3 storeys? Should there be a plan for growing again?
* I suggest we take care that the inside does not feel too much like a doctor’s surgery or conference centre – this is a risk with transparent buildings.
* Like – lots of natural light.
* I’d like to know how much more can we do to ensure that St John’s (Church & Centre) is the VISIBLE landmark of Egham.
* Also as much glass as possible. Thank you.
* I like the 2 level approach.
* I suggest that there is excellent sound-proofing between floors.
* Weight of green roof when wet – damp issues?
* Look at all different types of rooves for church hall. Pros mentioned for flat moss roof – has he mentioned cons?
* The colour is ugly.
* Does the green segum roof have to be flat?
* My question – is the ‘green’ flat roof the only option? Like the environmental rationale, but would like to see other less ‘ugly’ options!
* I suggest building something beautiful! Architectural legacy to be proud of – and reflect the beauty of the church building e.g. window shapes, etc.
* I’d like to know are there downsides to the roof option?
* I suggest that care is taken not to make the new building too modern. It should be keeping with the style of this church e.g. the big glass doors although making open doesn’t really fit with the old style.
* I suggest – not keen on all the flat roves – some pitch on roof line?
* (I suggest) Covered walkway between front of church and centre down south side.
* I suggest friendly surfaces not just plasterboard everywhere.
* I suggest to have design features that are similar to the church, so they don’t look like too completely different.
* I like the green roof.
* At entrance – glass walls are poor insulation materials – should lay brick.
* I suggest similar window design to main church.
* TOO MUCH glass looks scruffy when in use.
* Inspired design – 3 million.
* I think that the current plans are amazing, however I think it would be good to keep in mind the current architecture of the church when planning the exterior.
* Will the path down to the car park need to be moved?
* I like the glass open front (onto Manor Farm Lane).
* I like the open, light vision for the reception but how will you stop it looking cold and corporate?
* suggest windows match shape of church but much bigger, to the floor if possible.
* I like the transparent atrium – welcoming reception desk to seek information/direction.
* I like the green roof idea and look of it.
* Industrial catering facilities very good.
* I like new entrance and its layout.
* I suggest to have design features similar to the church, so they don’t look like two separate buildings (windows, pillars, floral decorative).
* I’d like to know, can you access the centre from the back?
* Would like to know what Christian features e.g. stain glass windows will be incorporated into the new building.
* Complementary windows to match the church.
* I suggest – architectural contrast at the interface. Nothing too Prince Charles. New bits to look new and old bits old!
* I’d like to know why you say everything is ‘transparent’ but you’re showing a very small use of glass.
* I like the idea of the church centre having several floors.
* I think everything is amazing and love the idea of the entrance being welcoming with transparency, i.e. doors, glass!
* Is a flat roof a good idea with the amount of rain we get?
* I like the glass entrance too!
* I would like to know if the new building would look more attractive than 140.
* I like the moss roof (will it have adequate durability?).
* I am not sure about the rooms being ‘transparent’ (in terms of the outside of the building) – the prayer and counselling rooms are on the road-side and I would not like to be ‘visible’ in these contexts.
* I suggest kitchen nearer church building rather than far end. Glass atrium entrance is nice but crowded by ministers office and roof garden.
* I like the roof idea.
* Suggest review space e.g. 120+ young people on a Sunday service
* Is the large size really necessary considering considerable cost!
* I’d like to know what materials would be used, i.e. think of Bath and its Georgian requirements
* Windows – broadly copy the lovely Georgian upper and lower windows of the church.
* Create a wonderful memorial garden.
* I like the light, open (glass?) inviting areas at the entrances.
* No access to a garden/green space.
* Architecture of extension not conforming to that of CHURCH
* Great lovely open welcome reception space.
* Suggest colour is light colours, white, yellow, light blue.
* I suggest be made to look like tithe barns – in keeping with farmyard history of the site.
* I suggest the gravestones be incorporated in the walls if that is possible.
* Like: Open aspect outside
+ Glassed area.
* Suggest: Don’t plant new trees near buildings – roots are damaging.
* I’d like to know if the building can be ‘cladded’ in similar stone to the church. Can the appearance blend with the style of the church – window shape, etc.?
* I like the tall glass ‘panels’ of the main entrance.
* New back of church design looks like the back of a theatre. Need to think through how to improve.
* It would be a long way to walk from the foyer with food all the way upstairs and to the far corner to the kitchen
* What views would you have coming up the centre stars to the first floor from the windows outside looking West? Could this be made into a feature? (Several very good and practical comments from Miriam the Finnish PhD student who is a trained architect)

Environmental

* I’d like to know if the building can be carbon neutral, e.g. solar/wind power, low carbon/? materials, etc.
* I like the green roof + how the centre would fit with its environs, unimposing.
* I’d like to know more about environmental aspects.
* I like the idea of green roof and combining green technology to the building.
* (I like the) ‘green’ construction and usage.
* I suggest using rainwater for toilets, etc.
* (I like) the desire for low CO2 footprint
* Add some solar panels on roof, there is plenty of options for it included with the moss.
* I suggest use of rainwater for toilet facilities.
* I suggest that environmental considerations have a high priority.
* Liked the size & eco view, esp. heating & roof.
* Consider passive solar gain when siting windows.
* I like the green roof and other environmental options to be considered for inclusion.
* It would be great to have in-built recycling. Recycling should be the norm so could this be part of the plan?
* I suggest solar panels for water heating and solar electric.
* I would like to know more about the ‘ECO’ systems proposed and building’s sustainability. Suggest – solar technology?
* Recycling facilities.
* I like the environmentally friendly aspects.
* (I like) ‘Green’ design features.
* Grand – source heating – put down a bore hold into the ground.
* Could use solar roof panel?
* I suggest large windows on south and west sides.
* Also has solar heating been thought about?
* I suggest environmentally-friendly heating and cooling. Any solar panels?

Miscellaneous

* I suggest final designs are integrated with ministry strategy so we know it will meet our needs.
* Access through church large enough for congregation without bottleneck!
* I’d like to know what we will do between the old centre being demolished and the new one being built.
* Like to know – timescales – 2012 – start building???
* I’d like to know is Jeff 100% on board? This has some of the factors in the plans under Jonathan Perkin which were specifically rejected by Jeff in 2006, e.g. straight/square/rectangle walls/shapes.
* I suggest dropping the phrase ‘church centre’ – the worship area should surely be the centre of our worshipping community.
* I like the idea of transparency (physical interpretation of a spiritual intention).
* Sacrifice by church now to leave a legacy.
* I’d like to know the timescale.
* I’d like to know if you plan to increase the number of people coming here so this plan can be capitalised on.
* I like the retention of the ‘memorial trees’ (can’t recall who they are in memory of!) at front of existing building – one hassle not to have!
* What is the expected useful life of this?
* I’d like to know how long the whole project will take.
* I’d like to know what is the timeline? Any idea?
* What is stopping us putting up a few benches in the graveyard area now for people to enjoy this green space?
* I’d like to know when it’s finished so I can have a look
* I suggest that this project does not take the focus off growing the ministries while it is going on, e.g. could we open the church at lunch-times for local people to have somewhere to come to eat their lunch, have a hot drink, meet others?
* I suggest emphasising how the gospel is going to be verbally proclaimed to a greater no. of people as a result of the project.
* I would like to know how St John’s are going to use this to verbally preach the gospel, as opposed to just social action.
* How long will it be expected to last? 100 years??
* I suggest that the visions for the ministries must be developed and commenced before the congregation will fully commit to the plans. This cannot be a ‘building project’.
* Want to know – how quick can we be in!
* I would suggest keeping the walkway down the right hand side of the church as it is because it’s nice and peaceful.
* I would like to know if there would be an area big enough to hold wedding receptions.
* Would like to see green areas and grave areas kept as large as possible and safe and secure.
* Also would like to see it opened up and as welcoming as possible from the town centre aspect i.e. the green outside areas not just from Manor Farm Lane aspect.
* Are there women in the committee?
* Warning! I don’t live in Egham and at the church I went to at my uni they refurbished the church. I went on a year abroad. When I came back the church had finished their building work but had had a few financial issues on the way. Because of this they had let go of their student worker and worship coordinator who were the two people who made me feel most welcome. When I came back the atmosphere had changed – I left shortly after. A building is never as important as the people in it.
* Has the church made its criticisms of the Waitrose development clear to the relevant people?
* Where will we be having coffee after services? Will this be in an area where the children have been or will be meeting and, if so, won’t we have all the current problems of confined space, difficulty for children’s leaders of setting up/clearing away while people are having coffee and possibly no garden to spill into?
* Like Saturday prayer idea.
* Don’t forget – if you plan to show PowerPoint slides on DVDs etc., you must be able to black out the room!!!
* About #140, am touched to hear Derek say that the negotiations with the owner were an opportunity to witness! I suspect that may have been God’s main purpose – not whether we could buy the land.
* Can we face the doors for the blessing each week please?
* I like to know when you hope this will be ready for completion.
* I want to know if the food is fresh, lunch, dinner, breakfast.
* I suggest you concentrate on the ministry to older people as much as you do to young families. There are many elderly, lonely people in the community.
* I suggest we need to reassure people that their voice matters if they have anxieties.
* I’d like to know when Manor Farm Lane changed its name!
* Thank you for a very clear presentation which really focussed on the ministries and what we could do if we had the facilities.
* Where will coats, etc be stored upon entry of atrium?
* Several discussions were had regarding enabling development and people seemed supportive of the idea